The verdict

Western, you are a nice bloke and I like you. I have offered you a pint and that offer still stands. The only thing I can really add to what has already been said is that perhaps because of sometime looking for someone and not having much luck, it tends to blur the mind as to what you are truly seeking.

You have a biological clock within you as we all do, that is sending out panic signals to you that you must become a father before it is to late! Whilst mine is not sending such signals to me I can understand it. I have a Son so perhaps that is why and I do not want to bring any more into this naff world.

You are fifty years old and have never had children. I think perhaps, just perhaps that your biological clock has gone into overdrive and it is not really helping you. I am sorry that I can not suggest anything else to help you as if I could I surely would. Perhaps you should just seek a lady around your own age, be it with or without children and just enjoy time with her. Go places, do things together and build a relationship with her. Spend quality time with her and love and cherish her. If the pitter patter of tiny feet do enter your life, then great and if not just think of how much you will save not having to buy nappies! Find a way to turn off that biological clock or at least turn down the alarm bells it is sounding and just enjoy your life with someone, and fall in love with them for who they are.

Hope this helps a bit and sorry I can not offer any more..

Good luck and shout me when you want that pint!

Richard.

LS, I thought that you were more understanding than this. There are no contradictions whatsoever. I shouldn't need to have to spell it out to you and all those other mothers that would seek to deny me though. Or was it something 'sinful' that you don't want me to do? Do you want a relationship that's non-sexual, what do you want me for? I wasn't aware that I denied any of you anything except a sexual relationship - I offered friendship. I think you'd find it a bit hard to do the kind of things I like to do though, because of your circumstances.

If you don't like me because I don't want to be involved with someone else's family before they want me, then you just don't get it. If you can't love me enough to want my child, how can you expect me to fit as a surrogate into your family? Me as a cuckoo? It simply wouldn't work. A lifelong bachelor would be preferable. It's not equal because I can't take the role I would expect to take as a father with someone else's children, just because they're lacking a man! You need a man with children, even if they aren't with him. It took you and another man to bring children into the world - it was nothing to do with me, and never will be. Equality is between me and a single woman, she might lament not having chldren, she might not - it's not important until there's a spark. Being a mother is a role, and really hasn't got much to do with the kind of relationship I want. What would I supposed to do - be around the house all the time? You've got the wrong man - the strain of being stuck at home for just a few months has nearly driven me barmy!

I don't think most women can bear the idea of equality, especially if they've headed a family on their own for years, most want dominance, and I don't do that. I understand that you want things your way, because you've been used to being the head of the household, but I don't want that. I don't do battles of the sexes - if they aren't complimentary they aren't together.

If you can't be my companion and lover, you certainly can't be my mother! I've aleady got one! First comes companionship (ie friendship). If (and I said if) I and she became lovers, everything changes. But you really can't expect marriage or a lifelong commitment with someone else's family if I don't contribute to that family. Have could I have any rights as a father in such a lop-sided relationship? It's ridiculous.

The fact that none of you have been interested I think may well have to do with other unspoken motives. You can make me out to be the devil incarnate, but I'm not, I've worked with thousands of children over the years in all sorts of situations. But until another person enters into a relationship with me, I have the choice. If you feel that I am the person for you and I don't then it is up to you to persuade me, not the other way round. The CRB thing was an attack on my professional integrity and reputation - and I'm well aware of the financial havoc that can be caused by a desperate mother. You may get sex-crazed men making lewd suggestions I don't know, because they don't do it to me, but I've had more than my fair share of money-crazed women. They usually take the form of someone who is really nice, but curious doesn't reveal much about themselves, tries to extract more and more information, before revealing that they've stuck at an airport in Nigeria, or can't afford the plane fare from Russia or something! You're right I do have enough problems and concerns as it is - but I'm dealing with them. All I'm saying is if these sites have got to the state where peole are too frightened to actally date any more, they not for me, because of the time it consumes. There is no dishonesty in anything I put in my profile. A few people saw it, did not judge but asked, but not many. I wish you luck in whatever you're looking for but it clearly isn't me.

WS you have never offered me anything, nor have I ever wanted anything from you.

I resent the fact that you have directed that message as if you and I personally had been talking which is untrue as you know.

I have been basing my postings on what you have said yourself in these threads, nothing more.

You may come across as an intelligent person, but as far as this thread goes, you come across as a bitter and twisted individual who has a dislike of single mothers.

This is quite frankly, getting beyond a joke and I want no further part in it.

ws i don't believe i have ever been prompted to say this to anyone 'on-line' and, reading this thread and your comments within it (along with thoughts and ideas you have shared on other threads), i have so far resisted saying it - but i think you're full of utter shite. perhaps not a very eloquent way of expressing my thoughts but it sums up my feelings so well and in so few words.

it makes me quite uncomfortable typing this as, of course, it's a personal attack on you; in days to come i will probably regret it. but you chose to share, at great length, the innermost workings of your mind and on this occasion i find it virtually impossible not to respond. i think it's because you seem to be a kind, generous and intelligent man with some lovely qualities that it causes me to be so incredibly frustrated when i read what you have to say on 'this' subject, on which your thinking/ideas are so fundamentally flawed that they actually make little sense at all (I sometimes read your posts, even the very lengthy ones, several times in a genuine effort to understand and even empathise with you).... and when you are (politely and conversationally) questioned in response, you (sometimes with subtlety) move the goalposts ever so slightly and on other occasions contradict yourself completely.

'you' can only do what is right for 'you' - that's obvious - and i'm leaving myself open here to the criticism that i'm merely suggesting you exchange your dogmata for my own. but do you never question your code of beliefs on this? when (i believe I am correct in saying) that the tide of opinion is so wholly against your own?

Could not have put it better myself Charlotte x

Ditto

The Verdict is that you are guilty of having so many issues and finding it difficult being able to deal with it on your own.

It sounds like its gone too far to be rectified as most issues were so long ago and time is a great healer with everybody and usually we pick ourselves up and get on with it. You are it seems from posting the same things over and over again have a problem with the certain people of society (especially women) not being to your standard and needs and thats not healthy in my eyes. Live and let live is what i say, you have a grudge and hold so much against those you feel have hurt you and that is not a good sign to be carrying around with you.

What shocked me is that you stated that you are only equal to an unmarried woman without children, or if she has a child then she would have to bear a child for you before she would be accepted and given a lifelong commitment from you. Well no wonder you are still single giving out those rules and regulations. Infact I think you are better off single with what you are saying in your posts.

Frankly I believe things happen for a reason and if they arent meant to be then so be it. Deal with it accept it and try something else. We only have one crack at life, theres no time to be bitter and twisted over anything.....Get a life and enjoy it hun....Easier said than done? Then get the proffessional help and advice thats readily available out there is my motto.

Whatever happened to meeting a girl, getting on, having a some fun times and seeing where things go! hmmm??

Too much expectation, too many "wants" or "I must haves" will always lead to dissapointment.

Theres a whole world out there full of fun, interesting women who may or may not fit what you want, but you seemed to have closed the door on pretty much all of them.

Mike (man in a wish you luck hat)

my motto in life is to forget the past and live life to the fullest ,take each moment as it comes ,and have fun along the way .take risks and dont regret faliure .mate there is plenty of fish in the sea as they say ,visit pubs near you and chat them up ...dont worry too much about gettnig those hotty tottiys you will get there but till then just ignore the face and f*ck the base man ,you;ll eventually land on mrs .right .life is for living .it is to shot to wine about .good luck mate .

Man in Hat I could not agree with you more, except for the bit about closing the door on all of them! Do you happen to have a large armour-plated hat that I might shelter in?

If there aren't any women that a) don't smoke b) aren't grossly overweight and c) don't have children that I could ever love, or could ever be capable of loving me, then maybe the couple that put me on the planet shouldn't have bothered, because I would have been condemned to exctinction from the word go! I really didn't think they were very strict criteria, just basic physics! Neither did I ever deny friendship to single mothers.

I have been tried by a jury of mothers. I wasn't actually looking for mothers, I was looking for a good single friend, who if she had got to know me by first dating, might have wanted to take things further, and then would have got to know me as I truly am. I know that all of you aren't bitter and twisted, and neither am I. I've been brutally honest about things that have afflicted me, maybe too honest, and that's touched a few nerves, but then I don't kid. I've cried 'unfair' very loudly in 'fleshyland' and I've been heard. My release from solitude is imminent. Most of it will be permanently resolved in a few weeks time. You don't like my views or right of choice, fine. Thank you for your love. I think its all the gossip and judgment before any chance of meeting, that's made up my mind, more than the fact that some of you have children. None of it helps build trust, without which no relationship stands a chance. Rather than the other way round, which is how I normally go about things. I'm not really interested now, as it will shortly be my birthday, and we, that is I and some of my friends intend to have some fun. There will be men, there will be women, there will be will be wine, guitars, and hopefully song. But above all, love to heal a very disappointed mother. There may even be children, but no kids, only sheep! If there hadn't been all this going on, several people could have got to know me for the joker in the pack that I am in the last few months. I wish you all a great May holiday. Adios!

yo mate thats the Way to go ...turn on the music party all ntie ,get yo juices flowin with W .A .S .P or some 70 s power mettle .and get on the Booze .hook up with soma those wemen offa them a pint oh too and they are all yours matey .go get em tiger ...happy Birthdayyyy ...

give them ladies a hard one .dont give them a hard time tho bro .lol

most women are after a free Drink any Way mate .only £ 10 and you can have a good time .

PB maybe you and WS should both ride off into the sunset,your comments are really out of order and offensive to the many lovely ladies on this site,an apology might no go amiss...

Thanks for that Mike 55,all the ladies who paticipate in these threads are like me. In that they work hard to support themselves and in some cases children too.

We are not out to get what we can out of men or looking for a free ride....we can pay our own way thank you very much..

Her endeth my little rant

On a lighter note I can only be bought by choc-te he...na not really lol.

LL x x

why which of my Comments you thikn are an snarky ?sorry girls you are all lovly i just cant imagin which Comment he is referrring too ?

The three above mine,though if you have to be told then that says it all...

hiya leolass sorry i get it now i thnk i didnt think it'd be taken that way my innocent Comment was not aimed at any one .it was just a genral Comment about chatting up the babes at the pub .theyre so easy .sometimes as little as £ 3 can get a man what he needs .but in no way should that Comment be misunderstood .it is just a genral comment ?

obviusly it had nothing too do with ladies here .

sorry buddies hey come on Guys n Gals chill !

life is About living my Comment was only to say that we must enjoy and WS must keep his hopes hi about finding a babe and i think he needs to get laid .honesty mate i think that will SOLVE all his Problems .just Keep yo head hi up in the air and live life to the fullest and take each moment as it comes .

Time is a great teacher .everyone Must love a laugh i thougt .it releases stress .